Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

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Re: Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

Postby lyovushka » Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:55 pm

cesium wrote:I've uploaded a 2.0.0.72 tarball: link.


Thank you so much for the link
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Re: Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

Postby sslothzz » Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:35 pm

cesium wrote:Does recording in general work? Try "ossrecord - | ossplay -" and test if there's an echo..

well, there is some kind of a noise in the speakers. is that echo? when i say something in the mic i hear a respond in the speakers - the noise fades away.
igorzwx wrote:1. Does it work with int speaker?
2. Does it work with external loudspeakers?
And the output of ossmix ...
EDIT: The "default device" is /dev/dsp, that is, your virtual mixer, that is, ossmix (CLI), or ossxmix (GUI).
Perhaps, it has nothing to do with Skype, it is how you configured ossxmix.

i'm sorry, but i can hardly understand the sense of your questions. my native language isn't english, and i'm new to all the terms.
the sound itself works just fine, i can listen to music and watch videos.
also i've got ossxmix mixer and i have no idea how's it configured...
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Re: Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

Postby cesium » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:06 am

A) echo is when you hear what you said to the mic. A similar test would be to record: "ossrecord test.wav", and see if you can hear what you said via playback: "ossplay test.wav". Here we're just piping the output directly... Did you hear what you said, or just some random noise?

B) Can you paste here the output of "ossinfo -v3" and "ossmix -a" commands?

C) Maybe a silly question, but are you sure it's the oss version of skype that is installed?
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Re: Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

Postby sslothzz » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:47 am

cesium wrote:A) echo is when you hear what you said to the mic. A similar test would be to record: "ossrecord test.wav", and see if you can hear what you said via playback: "ossplay test.wav". Here we're just piping the output directly... Did you hear what you said, or just some random noise?
B) Can you paste here the output of "ossinfo -v3" and "ossmix -a" commands?
C) Maybe a silly question, but are you sure it's the oss version of skype that is installed?

A) i hear my words, but i sound like a robot
B) ossinfo -v3
Code: Select all
Version info: OSS 4.2 (b 2002/200911060735) (0x00040100) TRIAL
Platform: Linux/i686 2.6.31-19-generic-pae #56-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 28 02:29:51 UTC 2010 (explightning)

Number of audio devices:   7
Number of audio engines:   11
Number of MIDI devices:      0
Number of mixer devices:   1


Device objects
0: osscore0 OSS core services
1: oss_hdaudio0 Intel HD Audio interrupts=163876 (163876)
    HD Audio controller Intel HD Audio
    Vendor ID    0x8086293e
    Subvendor ID 0x104319a3
     Codec  0: Unknown (0x10ec0663/0x104319a3)
     Codec  2: Unknown (0x10de0005/0x10de0101)
2: oss_usb0 USB audio core services

MIDI devices (/dev/midi*)

Mixer devices
0: High Definition Audio 0x10ec066 (Mixer 0 of device object 1)
    Device file /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/mix0, Legacy device /dev/mixer0
    Priority: 10
    Caps:
    Device handle: PCI19a31043-0000:00:1b.0-mx01
    Device priority: 10


Audio devices
HD Audio play pcm1                /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/pcm0  (device index 0)
    Legacy device /dev/dsp0
    Caps: DUPLEX TRIGGER MMAP
    Modes: IN/OUT
      Out engine  1: 0/HD Audio play pcm1
                     Busy (OUT) label 'VMIX'
      Engine      2: 7/HD Audio play pcm1 (vmix)
                     Busy (OUT) by PID 3150 / rhythmbox label 'rhythmbox'
      Engine      3: 8/HD Audio play pcm1 (vmix)
                     Available for use
      Engine      4: 9/HD Audio play pcm1 (vmix)
                     Available for use
      Engine      5: 10/HD Audio play pcm1 (vmix)
                     Available for use
    Input formats (0x00001010):
      AFMT_S16_LE   - 16 bit signed little endian
      AFMT_S32_LE   - 32 bit signed little endian
    Output formats (0x00001010):
      AFMT_S16_LE   - 16 bit signed little endian
      AFMT_S32_LE   - 32 bit signed little endian
    Device handle: PCI19a31043-0000:00:1b.0-au01
    Related mixer dev: 0
    Sample rate source: 0
    Preferred channel configuration: Not indicated
    Supported number of channels (min - max): 2 - 8
    Native sample rates (min - max): 44100 - 192000 (44100,48000,96000,192000)
    HW Type: Not indicated.
    Minimum latency: Not indicated

HD Audio play pcm2                /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/pcm1  (device index 1)
    Legacy device /dev/dsp1
    Caps: TRIGGER MMAP
    Modes: OUTPUT
      Out engine  1: 1/HD Audio play pcm2
                     Available for use
    Input formats (0x00001010):
      AFMT_S16_LE   - 16 bit signed little endian
      AFMT_S32_LE   - 32 bit signed little endian
    Output formats (0x00001010):
      AFMT_S16_LE   - 16 bit signed little endian
      AFMT_S32_LE   - 32 bit signed little endian
    Device handle: PCI19a31043-0000:00:1b.0-au02
    Related mixer dev: 0
    Sample rate source: 0
    Preferred channel configuration: Not indicated
    Supported number of channels (min - max): 2 - 2
    Native sample rates (min - max): 44100 - 192000 (44100,48000,96000,192000)
    HW Type: Not indicated.
    Minimum latency: Not indicated

HD Audio play pcm3                /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/pcm2  (device index 2)
    Legacy device /dev/dsp2
    Caps: TRIGGER MMAP
    Modes: OUTPUT
      Out engine  1: 2/HD Audio play pcm3
                     Available for use
    Input formats (0x00001010):
      AFMT_S16_LE   - 16 bit signed little endian
      AFMT_S32_LE   - 32 bit signed little endian
    Output formats (0x00001010):
      AFMT_S16_LE   - 16 bit signed little endian
      AFMT_S32_LE   - 32 bit signed little endian
    Device handle: PCI19a31043-0000:00:1b.0-au03
    Related mixer dev: 0
    Sample rate source: 0
    Preferred channel configuration: Not indicated
    Supported number of channels (min - max): 2 - 2
    Native sample rates (min - max): 44100 - 192000 (44100,48000,96000,192000)
    HW Type: Not indicated.
    Minimum latency: Not indicated

HD Audio play spdifout1           /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/spdout0  (device index 3)
    Legacy device /dev/dsp3
    Caps: TRIGGER MMAP
    Modes: OUTPUT
      Out engine  1: 3/HD Audio play spdifout1
                     Available for use
    Input formats (0x00001410):
      AFMT_S16_LE   - 16 bit signed little endian
      AFMT_AC3      - AC3 (Dolby Digital) encoded audio
      AFMT_S32_LE   - 32 bit signed little endian
    Output formats (0x00001410):
      AFMT_S16_LE   - 16 bit signed little endian
      AFMT_AC3      - AC3 (Dolby Digital) encoded audio
      AFMT_S32_LE   - 32 bit signed little endian
    Device handle: PCI19a31043-0000:00:1b.0-au04
    Related mixer dev: 0
    Sample rate source: 0
    Preferred channel configuration: Not indicated
    Supported number of channels (min - max): 2 - 2
    Native sample rates (min - max): 44100 - 192000 (44100,48000,88200,96000,192000)
    HW Type: Not indicated.
    Minimum latency: Not indicated

HD Audio play spdifout2           /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/spdout1  (device index 4)
    Legacy device /dev/dsp4
    Caps: TRIGGER MMAP
    Modes: OUTPUT
      Out engine  1: 4/HD Audio play spdifout2
                     Available for use
    Input formats (0x00001418):
      AFMT_U8      - 8 bit unsigned
      AFMT_S16_LE   - 16 bit signed little endian
      AFMT_AC3      - AC3 (Dolby Digital) encoded audio
      AFMT_S32_LE   - 32 bit signed little endian
    Output formats (0x00001418):
      AFMT_U8      - 8 bit unsigned
      AFMT_S16_LE   - 16 bit signed little endian
      AFMT_AC3      - AC3 (Dolby Digital) encoded audio
      AFMT_S32_LE   - 32 bit signed little endian
    Device handle: PCI19a31043-0000:00:1b.0-au05
    Related mixer dev: 0
    Sample rate source: 0
    Preferred channel configuration: Not indicated
    Supported number of channels (min - max): 2 - 2
    Native sample rates (min - max): 48000 - 88200 (48000,88200)
    HW Type: Not indicated.
    Minimum latency: Not indicated

HD Audio rec mix6                 /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/pcmin0  (device index 5)
    Legacy device /dev/dsp5
    Caps: DUPLEX TRIGGER MMAP
    Modes: IN/OUT
      In engine   1: 5/HD Audio rec mix6
                     Busy (IN) label 'VMIX_IN'
      Engine      2: 7/HD Audio play pcm1 (vmix)
                     Busy (OUT) by PID 3150 / rhythmbox label 'rhythmbox'
      Engine      3: 8/HD Audio play pcm1 (vmix)
                     Available for use
      Engine      4: 9/HD Audio play pcm1 (vmix)
                     Available for use
      Engine      5: 10/HD Audio play pcm1 (vmix)
                     Available for use
    Input formats (0x00001010):
      AFMT_S16_LE   - 16 bit signed little endian
      AFMT_S32_LE   - 32 bit signed little endian
    Output formats (0x00001010):
      AFMT_S16_LE   - 16 bit signed little endian
      AFMT_S32_LE   - 32 bit signed little endian
    Device handle: PCI19a31043-0000:00:1b.0-au06
    Related mixer dev: 0
    Sample rate source: 0
    Preferred channel configuration: Not indicated
    Supported number of channels (min - max): 2 - 2
    Native sample rates (min - max): 44100 - 192000 (44100,48000,96000,192000)
    HW Type: Not indicated.
    Minimum latency: Not indicated

HD Audio rec mix5                 /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/pcmin1  (device index 6)
    Legacy device /dev/dsp6
    Caps: TRIGGER MMAP
    Modes: INPUT 
      In engine   1: 6/HD Audio rec mix5
                     Available for use
    Input formats (0x00001010):
      AFMT_S16_LE   - 16 bit signed little endian
      AFMT_S32_LE   - 32 bit signed little endian
    Output formats (0x00001010):
      AFMT_S16_LE   - 16 bit signed little endian
      AFMT_S32_LE   - 32 bit signed little endian
    Device handle: PCI19a31043-0000:00:1b.0-au07
    Related mixer dev: 0
    Sample rate source: 0
    Preferred channel configuration: Not indicated
    Supported number of channels (min - max): 2 - 2
    Native sample rates (min - max): 44100 - 192000 (44100,48000,96000,192000)
    HW Type: Not indicated.
    Minimum latency: Not indicated


Nodes
  /dev/dsp -> /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/pcm0
  /dev/dsp_in -> /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/pcm0
  /dev/dsp_out -> /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/pcm0
  /dev/dsp_ac3 -> /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/spdout0
  /dev/dsp_mmap -> /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/pcm0
  /dev/dsp_multich -> /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/pcm0


ossmix -a
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Selected mixer 0/High Definition Audio 0x10ec0663
Known controls are:
codec1.jack.int-speaker.mode <mix2|mix3|input> (currently input)
codec1.jack.int-speaker.mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.jack.pink.mode <mix4|input> (currently mix4)
codec1.jack.pink [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 29.9:29.9 dB)
codec1.jack.pink.mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.jack.pink.pcm3 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 51.9:51.9 dB)
codec1.jack.pink.pcm3-mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.jack.pink.mix1-mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.jack.int-mic.mode <mix2|mix3|mix4|input> (currently input)
codec1.jack.int-mic [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 29.9:29.9 dB)
codec1.jack.int-mic.mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.jack.blue.mode <mix3|input> (currently mix3)
codec1.jack.blue [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 29.9:29.9 dB)
codec1.jack.blue.mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.jack.blue.pcm2 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 51.9:51.9 dB)
codec1.jack.blue.pcm2-mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.jack.blue.mix1-mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.jack.green.mode <mix2|mix3|mix4> (currently mix2)
codec1.jack.green.mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.record.mix6.mute.mix4 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.record.mix6.mute.int-mic ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.record.mix6.mute.mix3 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.record.mix6.mute.int-spe ON|OFF (currently ON)
codec1.record.mix6.mute.mix1 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.record.mix6 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 38.9:38.9 dB)
codec1.record.mix5.mute.mix4 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.record.mix5.mute.int-mic ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.record.mix5.mute.mix3 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.record.mix5.mute.int-spe ON|OFF (currently ON)
codec1.record.mix5.mute.mix1 ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.record.mix5 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 38.9:38.9 dB)
codec1.misc.pcm1 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 51.9:51.9 dB)
codec1.misc.mix4 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 38.9:38.9 dB)
codec1.misc.int-mic [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 38.9:38.9 dB)
codec1.misc.mix3 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 38.9:38.9 dB)
codec1.misc.int-speaker [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 38.9:38.9 dB)
codec1.misc.mix1 <mix4|int-mic|mix3> (currently mix4)
codec1.misc.pcm1-mute ON|OFF (currently OFF)
codec1.misc.mix1-mute ON|OFF (currently ON)
codec1.misc.mix2 <pcm1|mix1> (currently pcm1)
vmix0-enable ON|OFF (currently ON)
vmix0-rate <decimal value> (currently 48000) (Read-only)
vmix0-channels <Stereo|Multich> (currently Stereo)
vmix0-src <Fast|High|OFF> (currently High)
vmix0-outvol <monovol> (currently 25.0 dB)
vmix0-invol <monovol> (currently 25.0 dB)
vmix0.pcm7 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 25.0:25.0 dB) ("rhythmbox")
vmix0.pcm8 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 25.0:25.0 dB)
vmix0.pcm9 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 25.0:25.0 dB)
vmix0.pcm10 [<leftvol>:<rightvol>] (currently 25.0:25.0 dB)


C) about the version - i don't know whether it's oss version or not. it's said 2.0.0.72 version in 'about', no oss. so maybe it's not.

also i downloaded this one
cesium wrote:I've uploaded a 2.0.0.72 tarball: link.

and got skype_... .tar.bz2
i don't know what to do with this thing so i unpacked it in some directory and launched it. the skype ran, i made a call to my friend and the mic was working that time. but the skype stopped responding. i couldn't end the process.
i did something wrong with this .tar.bz2 - but i'm such a newbie that i didn't understand anything =\
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Re: Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

Postby cesium » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:58 pm

So the call worked? Unfortunately, I don't know anything about skype, except one needs to use the special oss version... I also have another idea, but I have to try and compile a 32-bit version of OSS for you first...
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Re: Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

Postby igorzwx » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:20 pm

cesium wrote:So the call worked? Unfortunately, I don't know anything about skype, except one needs to use the special oss version... I also have another idea, but I have to try and compile a 32-bit version of OSS for you first...


This is surely a great idea, an own repository for "skype-static-oss".

Skype is what many users really need, and it works well with OSS4, much better than with Windows.

From my experience, "skype-static-oss" works with OSS4 about automatically, when everything else works.

What is missing is, perhaps, a comprehensible handbook on OSS4, two pages (not more), two pictures, basic principles and basic commands.
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Re: Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

Postby cesium » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:49 pm

igorzwx: Err, I wasn't talking about a repo. I planned on sslothzz testing a slightly patched OSS (this), If he has a problem (I'm not clear on that). I can't test a skype install, so me creating a skype package is probably not very useful. As for handbook - It's possible to edit the wiki in order to make an handbook - it has sufficient facilities for "two pages", and a good part of the content is already there...
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Re: Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

Postby igorzwx » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:02 pm

cesium wrote: As for handbook - It's possible to edit the wiki in order to make an handbook - it has sufficient facilities for "two pages", and a good part of the content is already there...


Hi Cesium!

Wiki is wiki, and handbook is handbook, you do not need to mix everything together.

A short comprehensible handbook with pictures for "an absolute beginner" is what is needed.
It will essentially reduce the number of questions on OSS4 forum.
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Re: Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

Postby sslothzz » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:03 am

cesium wrote:I planned on sslothzz testing a slightly patched OSS (this), If he has a problem (I'm not clear on that).

i don't have problems with oss, i have problems with skype. i unpacked this version: skype_static-2.0.0.72-oss.tar.bz2 and simply launched it (as it's said in the Readme). it works fine for 3 minutes (mic works! i can hear the sound) then just....i dunno how it's in english, in my language it's called "the program hung".
so maybe i'm going to wait for skype in open sourse.
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Re: Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

Postby igorzwx » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:46 am

sslothzz wrote:
cesium wrote:I planned on sslothzz testing a slightly patched OSS (this), If he has a problem (I'm not clear on that).

i don't have problems with oss, i have problems with skype. i unpacked this version: skype_static-2.0.0.72-oss.tar.bz2 and simply launched it (as it's said in the Readme). it works fine for 3 minutes (mic works! i can hear the sound) then just....i dunno how it's in english, in my language it's called "the program hung".
so maybe i'm going to wait for skype in open sourse.


Try this:

1. On terminal:

killall skype

2. Restart Skype



------------------------------------------
EDIT:
It might be a bug in this manual:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound

In the old instruction: sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio

In the new instruction: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio

I would prefer a radical removal of PulseAudio, otherwise some "hidden evil" would remain, such as:

~/.asoundrc

Content:
---------------------------------------------------------------
# ALSA library configuration file

# Include settings that are under the control of asoundconf(1).
# (To disable these settings, comment out this line.)
</home/igor/.asoundrc.asoundconf>
----------------------------------------------------------------

~/.asoundrc.asoundconf

Content:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
# ALSA library configuration file managed by asoundconf(1).
#
# MANUAL CHANGES TO THIS FILE WILL BE OVERWRITTEN!
#
# Manual changes to the ALSA library configuration should be implemented
# by editing the ~/.asoundrc file, not by editing this file.
pcm.!default { type pulse }
ctl.!default { type pulse }
-----------------------------------------------------------------

That is why, perhaps, many users have very strange problems with OSS4 (sound delay, and so on).
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Re: Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

Postby cesium » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:18 am

Note that the BW limit on the previous skype link is up. this mirror may do for now. Hopefully, skype would publish an oss version for skype 2.1 too..
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Re: Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

Postby cesium » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:20 pm

igorzwx wrote:Wiki is wiki, and handbook is handbook, you do not need to mix everything together.

A short comprehensible handbook with pictures for "an absolute beginner" is what is needed.
It will essentially reduce the number of questions on OSS4 forum.

Well, I'd think the wiki would work as well, but if you want a closer analogue to an handbook, that would be the PDF available when downloading OSS (from here). It needs some updating. I tried editing the PDF, but since it's all seems to be in image form, it's not easy to make a good edit. An original text representation would be better. Maybe a troff based source? It can be compiled with "groff -Tps". This would allow to hook creating a ps/pdf into the build.
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Re: Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

Postby igorzwx » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:34 pm

cesium wrote:
igorzwx wrote:Wiki is wiki, and handbook is handbook, you do not need to mix everything together.

A short comprehensible handbook with pictures for "an absolute beginner" is what is needed.
It will essentially reduce the number of questions on OSS4 forum.

Well, I'd think the wiki would work as well, but if you want a closer analogue to an handbook, that would be the PDF available when downloading OSS (from here). It needs some updating. I tried editing the PDF, but since it's all seems to be in image form, it's not easy to make a good edit. An original text representation would be better. Maybe a troff based source? It can be compiled with "groff -Tps". This would allow to hook creating a ps/pdf into the build.


That PDF handbook (manual for installation) was of great help for me (it is very short and comprehensible).

1. The purpose of handbook is to reduce the number of questions on the forum.
2. Therefore, the handbook should be made by the moderator of the forum.

You may try an old trick: write a handbook and then test it on an absolutely ignorant person.
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Re: Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

Postby PauPau » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:47 am

Err, I wasn't talking about a repo. I planned on sslothzz testing a slightly patched OSS (this), If he has a problem (I'm not clear on that). I can't test a skype install, so me creating a skype package is probably not very useful. As for handbook - It's possible to edit the wiki in order to make an handbook - it has sufficient facilities for "two pages", and a good part of the content is already there..


God, I've been searching the internet for ages. Cesium you are brilliant!!!
Skype finally works.
Though I still haven't figured out why it didn't work with the other versions, like the new static and v2.0.
I think it might be something to do with the fact that my soundcard solely works with OSSv4 and that I probably messed up somewhere in the sound configuration.

This is quite off-top i do realise, but, could it be related to the fact that when I try to enter System>Preferences>Sound i get the 'Waiting for sound system to respond' message?

Thanks so much!

P.
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Re: Skype 2.1.0.47 - no oss?

Postby cesium » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:38 am

Well, what's limiting other skype versions from working isn't the "static" linkage, but that they use the ALSA sound API. skype had a "static OSS" version, which used the OSS sound API, and that's what is you use now. (Btw, It would be nice if people asked skype on their forums to make a new OSS version, or at least keep the old version on their website, since the link to that doesn't work anymore).

As for your issue, I guess you're using Gnome and Fedora? Fedora seems to have linked it quite heavily with PulseAudio... Maybe this will help.
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