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ubuntu 10.04, license has expired

Postby brom » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:09 pm

Hello,

As far as I know oss has 6 month period of work. And reinstalling of package should correct license issue. This worked for me all the time. But now when I try to install latest .deb package I receive "NOTE! Your Open Sound evaluation has expired". And nothing is work.
What does this mean? How can I fix this?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: ubuntu 10.04, license has expired

Postby igorzwx » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:12 pm

You can build OSS from mercurial.
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Re: ubuntu 10.04, license has expired

Postby brom » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:16 pm

igorzwx wrote:You can build OSS from mercurial.


of course I can try to build from source. But I want to know what happen with .deb
I'm using oss long time and never confronted with such issue
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Re: ubuntu 10.04, license has expired

Postby igorzwx » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:37 pm

On Arch Linux, you can install OSS from official repositories with one command:

# pacman -S oss

On Gentoo, you install OSS in a similar way.

You can also recompile OSS to enable "Production quality".

What is the problem?
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Re: ubuntu 10.04, license has expired

Postby brom » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:48 pm

Not sure that I understand you correctly. I'm talking about ubuntu and official deb package from opensound.com.
How Gentoo and Arch related to my issue?
deb is not working anymore? We need to install oss only from source?
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Re: ubuntu 10.04, license has expired

Postby igorzwx » Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:01 pm

brom wrote:Not sure that I understand you correctly. I'm talking about ubuntu and official deb package from opensound.com.
How Gentoo and Arch related to my issue?
deb is not working anymore? We need to install oss only from source?


If I understood you correctly, you do not want to learn how to compile OSS, and, perhaps, you do not want to learn Linux in general. Right?

OSS is easy to install on Arch. You can also find OSS in Ubuntu repositories, but it might be much easier to compile OSS from mercurial.

If you need a kind of easy Linux, you may try Arch.
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Re: ubuntu 10.04, license has expired

Postby brom » Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:23 pm

igorzwx wrote:If I understood you correctly, you do not want to learn how to compile OSS, and, perhaps, you do not want to learn Linux in general. Right?

OSS is easy to install on Arch. You can also find OSS in Ubuntu repositories, but it might be much easier to compile OSS from mercurial.

If you need a kind of easy Linux, you may try Arch.


I'm not beginner in linux and I know how to build from source %) And I don't planning to change distr to Arch or something else. My question is easy I think. Why it stop working. Nothing else. Thanks for the help but I think we don't understand each other.
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Re: ubuntu 10.04, license has expired

Postby igorzwx » Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:35 pm

brom wrote:
igorzwx wrote:If I understood you correctly, you do not want to learn how to compile OSS, and, perhaps, you do not want to learn Linux in general. Right?

OSS is easy to install on Arch. You can also find OSS in Ubuntu repositories, but it might be much easier to compile OSS from mercurial.

If you need a kind of easy Linux, you may try Arch.


I'm not beginner in linux and I know how to build from source %) And I don't planning to change distr to Arch or something else. My question is easy I think. Why it stop working. Nothing else. Thanks for the help but I think we don't understand each other.


There is a formal reason, and there is a real reason.
The formal reason is obvious: you can install OSS from Ubuntu repositories.
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Re: ubuntu 10.04, license has expired

Postby cesium » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:49 am

By using the "make deb" (instead of "make install" or such) command, you can create a deb from the source, and that can be installed using dpkg etc. The wiki explains how to build OSS.
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Re: ubuntu 10.04, license has expired

Postby brom » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:39 am

cesium wrote:By using the "make deb" (instead of "make install" or such) command, you can create a deb from the source, and that can be installed using dpkg etc. The wiki explains how to build OSS.


yes, already did. Before I have tried ubuntu repos, there are some bugs I guess. It didn't installed properly.
Thanks to all for the help.
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Re: ubuntu 10.04, license has expired

Postby igorzwx » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:29 am

brom wrote:
cesium wrote:By using the "make deb" (instead of "make install" or such) command, you can create a deb from the source, and that can be installed using dpkg etc. The wiki explains how to build OSS.


yes, already did. Before I have tried ubuntu repos, there are some bugs I guess. It didn't installed properly.
Thanks to all for the help.


The problem is that it is very difficult to create a package for Ubuntu/Debian repositories. This is the difference between Arch and Ubuntu/Debian. You can easily create a deb package with "make deb", or "checkinstall", but to be able to create a package for Ubuntu/Debian repositories, you have to be a very advanced Linux user (see: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3375 ).
This causes a social problem. The Ubuntu community is actually divided into two categories: the Übermenschen (developers) and the Untermenschen (users)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbermensch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch
It is a kind of apartheid (in this sense) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Afri ... _apartheid
The Übermenschen create packages and the Untermenschen have to test them and report bugs. The story of PulseAudio proves this point. The developers pretend to be technocrats, and the opinion of ignorant users is of little value.

Do you have "libpulse" installed on Ubuntu?
If you have it, you may try to recompile Ubuntu packages to get rid of libpulse and PulseAudio.
You may also create your own PPA repository to gain respect and elevate your social status (see, for example: https://launchpad.net/~dtl131/+archive/ppa ). If you have your own PPA, you can pretend to be a kind of Übermensch.

In comparison with the Ubuntu "humanistic community", the Arch community looks like a kind of Anarchist society, and this is predetermined by the Arch packaging system, in particular, and by the Arch philosophy, in general (see: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Be ... e_Arch_Way ). If you cannot imagine an Anarchist community, read Orwell's Homage to Catalonia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage_to_Catalonia
see also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestor_Makhno

However, nobody is perfect. The Arch developers can also treat users as Untermenschen, call them "dumb", "stupid" or "foolish", or humiliate them in another way.

OK... let me replace naive with just plain dumb.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 80#p856580


This can be safely ignored, because Arch users do not depend on Arch developers in the sense that they can always recompile Arch packages how the want. It is easy to do, and the users can share their "dissident packages" in AUR. If you do not want to be humiliated, do not ask questions on the Arch forum. Read the Arch Wiki instead.

You may try Arch to see how Anarchy works. If you feel comfortable with Arch, you may come to believe that Prince Kropotkin was probably right telling that "Anarchy is the mother of order" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kropotkin
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky

Taking into account the rudeness of PulseAudio enthusiasts, it is not difficult to predict a new fork of Arch Linux. To keep an Anarchist society stable, a certain level of culture is required. If it is missing, escalation of conflicts might be inevitable. The driving force behind PulseAudio revolution in Arch Linux seems to be "junior developers" from Romania and East Germany. To understand what is going on, it might be sufficient to read a few discussions:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 80#p856580
http://old.nabble.com/PulseAudio-in--ex ... 14159.html
http://groups.google.com/group/arch-lin ... 2a49?pli=1
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.a ... eral/32154

EDIT: To make things clear, I do not believe in Anarchism and any other ideology or religion (such as Atheism, free-market fundamentalism, and the like), but there is another example of Anarchist society which deserves to be studied. It is a global Internet community.
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Re: ubuntu 10.04, license has expired

Postby cesium » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:49 pm

brom wrote:
cesium wrote:By using the "make deb" (instead of "make install" or such) command, you can create a deb from the source, and that can be installed using dpkg etc. The wiki explains how to build OSS.


yes, already did. Before I have tried ubuntu repos, there are some bugs I guess. It didn't installed properly.
Thanks to all for the help.


You're welcome. But I don't entirely understand: does it work now?
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Re: ubuntu 10.04, license has expired

Postby igorzwx » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:39 pm

cesium wrote:You're welcome. But I don't entirely understand: does it work now?


It seems that you have not learned the art of telepathy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy
The Russian Ubuntu users reported that it usually works, except for Windows refugees with 3 days of Linux experience.
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Re: ubuntu 10.04, license has expired

Postby brom » Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:47 pm

cesium wrote:You're welcome. But I don't entirely understand: does it work now?


yes, it works of course.

2igorzwx, it seems that you believe that you are wiser than other people. You are completely mistaken. Trust me %) In the most cases you are know nothing about people which write here or in the other places.
Thanks for the info about PPA, Arch etc. But main thing for me obtain working oss on my system. Other things doesn't matter at this moment. It would be better for me to spend my time and power to things which really important in the current moment of my life, work ...

Hope you understand me. And thanks for the help, anyway you are helped me with oss.
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Re: ubuntu 10.04, license has expired

Postby igorzwx » Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:53 pm

brom wrote:
cesium wrote:You're welcome. But I don't entirely understand: does it work now?


yes, it works of course.

2igorzwx, it seems that you believe that you are wiser than other people. You are completely mistaken. Trust me %) In the most cases you are know nothing about people which write here or in the other places.
Thanks for the info about PPA, Arch etc. But main thing for me obtain working oss on my system. Other things doesn't matter at this moment. It would be better for me to spend my time and power to things which really important in the current moment of my life, work ...

Hope you understand me. And thanks for the help, anyway you are helped me with oss.


I am not sure that I really believe that I am wiser or better than others, but I certainly do not trust anybody and do not believe in anything.

EDIT: Do you mean telepathy? I was too lazy to learn it, although I had a chance.

Perhaps, the underlying reason for your questions was that you needed a kind of rational explanation of what is going around. Right?

http://www.4front-tech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=4206
Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:11 am
Open Sound System v4.2 build 2004 has been announced for Linux (x86/amd64), Solaris (x86, amd64, sparc), FreeBSD 8 (x86, amd64), UnixWare, and Open Server.

* Added support for ASUS Xonar DS and STX
* Added support for AMD Geode CS5536
* Fixed up SADA support driver for Solaris Sparc
* New formats added to ossplay
* Added channel mapping to VMIX
* Added devfsadm to Solaris soundon script to fix devlinks problems
* Free license expiration updated to July 2011.
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